Horrifying Wisconsin Spots, Lore, Legends & Cryptids with Badgerland Legends & 3 Sheeps

SPEAKER_04
0:00

I want to show you this video. I'm just sitting down on the the train at the Milwaukee County Zoo and I don't hear anything. And then I listen back to the video and I'm like, what is that?

SPEAKER_00
0:13

But they have the story of this haunted railroad track, and there's a paranormal dare involved in. So you're supposed to drive and park on the tracks, put your car in neutral, and it said that ghost children are supposed to push you to safety. But what his encounter was circular craft that he described as being brighter than chrome came down, out pops a latch, and an occupant steps out, and he's making what looks like pancakes. They're very thin. People have said these are pancakes from outer space.

SPEAKER_04
0:49

Hey guys, welcome back to Milwaukee Uncut. If you love Wisconsin lore, horror stories, haunted places, encrypted. We've got a great episode for you. We've got just the absolute expert in this department. Doesn't get any better. We've got Jeff Finnup of Badgerland Legends everywhere on social media. He does a great job on those platforms, posts, posts a lot of Wisconsin lore content. And he's he's also the author of a children's book, Wisconsin Legends for Kids. And we cover a lot of ground on this one, including the most haunted places around Milwaukee and Wisconsin, many of which you're more than welcome to check out this spooky season. And topics and stories, including the hodeg, Peppy, the Mississippi monster, the little people of Moskego, a potential alien encounter that happened in Eagle River. This is like a true story. I was not aware of this, also. St. Joan of our Chapel, right over on Marquette's campus, um, and a whole lot more. This episode is also co-hosted by Josh Aschenbacher, good friend who runs marketing over at Three Sheeps. And Three Sheeps did a whole Wisconsin cryptid series this year. There were four beers total, including the Gnomes of Fitfield, which is still coming out in November. So they've done three so far. Got that one coming out in November. IPAs, you gotta get your hands on them. And they're also running that series back next year. We love Three Sheeps, great people, and great beer up in Sheboygan. By the way, Taproom up there is a great place to check out this fall. And speaking of three sheeps, I do want to thank our other partners before diving into this one as well. Annex Wealth Management. The fall is a great time to get your life together, and that means looking at your finances. Annex is a holistic wealth management firm with offices in and all around Milwaukee that helps you with everything: retirement planning, smart investing, estate planning, legacy planning, and tax strategies all under one roof. Annex know the difference. Next, we've got Nicolai Law, the Midwest Law firm. Injured, get Nicola and Russell, and the team will take great care of you, including, you know, if you get injured when the when the when the gnomes of Fifth Field are tossing rocks out of the woods at you or any legitimate injury, call our good friends over at Nicolai Law. And if you're looking for a nice canned old fashion this fall, I love a good drink. Wisconsinably beverage company, canned old fashioned, best vodka brandy and canned cocktails in the game, available at bars and liquor stores across the state, including in the corner bar in Wright Field, the damn fam perfect for hopefully a long Brewers playoff run. We were also at Sendex yesterday doing a shooting. They got they got drink Wisconsinable Beverage Company and Three Sheeps right over there. So make sure to check those out. And um, all right, let's dive in with our good friends Josh and Jeff.

SPEAKER_00
3:52

It started at a young age for me. My mom was really into this stuff growing up, and uh she kind of got hooked me hooked on it. She had a lot of stories of like angels and haunted houses where she grew up, and you know, I just kind of caught the bug at an early age. I was terrified of it at first. I never wanted to see a ghost. I didn't want to have any supernatural encounters, but it seemed to have grown on me over the years. And uh I've been doing the Badgerland Legends in an official capacity for uh going on seven years now, just trying to document all the spooky things of the Badger State, people, places, and things that make Wisconsin legendary.

SPEAKER_04
4:32

Very cool. Did your mom have any paranormal experiences?

SPEAKER_00
4:36

You know, she after her mom died, her mom died at a young age. I was probably a baby at the time, and she was cleaning some of her stuff out, and she felt a profound presence while in her house, and the smell of her perfume wafting over her. I think that was kind of a compelling story to tell me as a kid.

SPEAKER_04
4:59

And uh have have you had any? You don't or what's the most you know terrifying experience that that you've had? You do a lot of this stuff now. Probably like Willie Street on Halloween. But they shut that down, didn't they? Oh no, state that's state street, right? State street's no longer going on. I mean, that was that was a banger back in the day.

SPEAKER_00
5:19

Yes, it was wild. Um, but yeah, I get that that question all the time, and I wish I had a more profound story. So I would say that I'm still seeking out those experiences. I've had the opportunity to be in some of the most haunted places in the state. I visited across the country, uh, several haunted locations. You know, I'm looking for that one moment in the paranormal field they call the holy grail, like a full body apparition that's actually seeing the visage of like a full ghost or at least like torso up of an unidentifiable ghost. I haven't had that yet.

SPEAKER_01
5:58

So what place like gave you what what had the most like intense feeling? You know what I mean? Like what was your spookiest or scariest?

SPEAKER_00
6:06

The I would say there is a place in downtown Manitowak. It's called Dead by Dawn's. It is a scare BMB or uh Dead and Breakfast, and you can spend the night there. So the Dawn is the name of the lady that runs the place, and she was a formal former haunted attraction uh person. So she ran like haunted houses. So all of her the items that she had on display at these places are now inside of this building in downtown Manitowk. And I got to hook up with a paranormal uh investigative group and spend the evening and into the late night investigating that place, and that place is very, very active. And since we have our friend here from Sheboygan, the Sheboygan Asylum is also a very active place. And you you've been through that a number of times or before. Yeah, absolutely. I've I've gone on several tours and got to uh visit the property, uh, go with some more experienced people, and the really cool thing is the tour guides there, they have their own relationships with whatever resides there, whether it's a ghost entity, I'm not sure really sure where to put that, but it seems like when they go there, they get responses on their equipment, uh knocks on the wall, uh different lighting triggers lighting up when they ask questions. Uh very, very active place. So dead and breakfasts are a thing. It it is uh apparently in downtown Manitowak, it is.

SPEAKER_04
7:44

And people pay to stay overnight.

SPEAKER_00
7:46

People people spend the night there. They don't get paid to do it as a challenge or anything. You know, that would that would open up a new wrankle in a reality show. Maybe we can get Mr. Beast on the horn and we could get into that. But uh yeah, they have a suite in there with three different rooms that you can rent for the night. Um a friend of mine took one of the rooms. I actually slept out in the living room and just explored the place at night with the team, and it just very a lot of activity. No full body apparitions, a lot of um hits on the equipment, a lot of strange sounds, strange feelings in just kind of a strange place.

SPEAKER_04
8:27

Do you are there lights on or do you have like a headlight and what is what's the equipment setup when you're trying to find something?

SPEAKER_00
8:34

So you want to get your eyes to adjust to the surroundings, so you want to keep the lighting as low as possible. So if you have um like a tape recorder or some kind of EMF meter, that's gonna have a little bit of background light to it, so you can at least get where you are. But a lot of times people will do seances where they will just sit kind of vigil in the dark and wait for something to happen.

SPEAKER_04
8:58

Josh, have you had any paranormal experiences over there? Oh man.

SPEAKER_01
9:03

I don't I don't I can't think of anything.

SPEAKER_04
9:06

Nothing stands out. No. Okay, I wanna I wanna show you this video. Um, both you. So Bree and I were just peacefully recording uh a promo video for the Milwaukee County Zoo for their Cheers um Cheers Holiday Lights event, and I'm I'm uh on the train and then a weird sound comes up on on this thing. I'm curious if uh if you think it's it's something or or nothing. Do you think it you think it might be something, right? Or am I gonna look like a complete idiot? Okay.

SPEAKER_01
9:38

Wait, give us the background one more time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04
9:40

Bree and I are just recording a pro Milwaukee Cup promo video for Cheers, which is like a adults' night at the zoo that got the holiday. Oh, Fisher's setup. Cool. Great, great event. We're gonna do it again this year. Yep. And I'm just sitting down on the train at the Milwaukee County Zoo, and I don't hear anything. And then I listen back to the video and I'm like, what the fuck was that? Let's hear it. You can uh I think the vol the volume should be up. You can just press press play.

SPEAKER_02
10:22

Or the train. Or you can ride the train with the beer.

SPEAKER_04
10:34

What what is that?

SPEAKER_00
10:37

You're laughing at me. I'm not sure what that is. It's probably the paranormal though.

SPEAKER_04
10:49

What is that noise? It was not me farting. Oh, I'd like to make that clear. See, I thought that you I thought you were pulling our leg, Jerry.

SPEAKER_01
10:57

Or your finger. I think that's a haunted elephant, right? Okay. The haunted elephant at the monkey zoo.

SPEAKER_04
11:10

Not like that. For me to squeeze into that type position, I'm a very stiff guy. Um do you think that was something or no?

SPEAKER_01
11:20

I think it's pretty wild to air your flatulences online. Is that bad? Paranormal activity.

SPEAKER_05
11:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_04
11:28

Um anyway, Josh. So that that was not a mind-blowing encounter to either of either of you two over there. Indetermined.

SPEAKER_01
11:40

Okay, I believe.

SPEAKER_04
11:41

I was I was looking for a little clarity on what happened there. Um, mystery is still out over at the zoo. Uh haunted bowels.

SPEAKER_01
11:48

In the haunted bowels of the zoo.

SPEAKER_04
11:50

Josh, before we uh get into some stories, how how did you come up with this whole cryptid series?

SPEAKER_01
11:55

Yeah, I mean, you know, at Three Cheeps, we just we love to celebrate our Wisconsinists, and so we're always looking for creative ways to do that. And you can only talk about, you know, cheese and sausage so much, and you know, all of our great sports teams. And so this is just another angle for us to kind of lean into our Wisconsinists. And Wisconsin is just full of awesome lore and stories. Uh, you know, I think the Northwoods of Wisconsin are just full of those, like, you know, those uh uh those oral stories that have lived on for you know forever. Um and so yeah, that's that's what this is all about. It's just a fun way for us to uh celebrate all the great stories in Wisconsin. And so we have a rich history of cryptids in Wisconsin. Gotta correct you, it's not cryptic, it's cryptids. They're called cryptids. Um uh and there's I mean, there's just so many. Um, and so that's what we're trying to do. So we had four this year. Obviously, the most well-known one is the hodeg of Rhinelander. That's when you see kind of all over Wisconsin, that's Wisconsin's claim to fame. Um, but we'll have three more next year. We're gonna do the hodeg again, but we'll have three more next year. And uh so yeah, it's just it's just been a fun kind of series to to work through.

SPEAKER_00
13:10

So you got jumped off with the hodeg. Yeah, and then he followed it up with the other big guy, Bigfoot. Yep. We rounded things off with the Beast of Ray Road, yep. And now you have the launching of the gnomes.

SPEAKER_01
13:22

The gnomes of Fife Field, yeah. So we wanted to do um, you know, the gnomes was kind of this light-hearted one, uh, very uh obscure, uh, but a fun one. So the gnomes are known for hiding in the woods and throwing stones at people if they get too close to kind of scare them away. Um, so that's a fun one. But yeah, obviously, you know, Bigfoot, uh, there's a ton of uh sightings of Bigfoot in Wisconsin, um, which has been fun. And then the Beast debray Road is is one that is uh really well known as actually was a Hollywood movie created about the Beast of Bray Road. And um I drove out there and and it's a very unassuming, just kind of country road. You wouldn't really think twice about it, but there is definitely like a feeling on that road. It was, I don't know, maybe I like psyched myself out, but like just driving on that like empty road, I don't know, and there's kind of this like creepy umbrella of trees that come over the top, and then you kind of turn this blind corner, and so I could totally see like how at night you kind of go around this corner and your headlights could catch something, you know, in the uh the tall grass there. So yeah, these have been fun for us.

SPEAKER_04
14:27

And in the last one, the gnomes, that beer comes out in November.

SPEAKER_01
14:30

Yeah, that's releasing in uh the first part of November, yep.

SPEAKER_04
14:33

Jeff, what do you want to dive into the gnomes over here?

SPEAKER_00
14:37

Have you ever heard about the gnomes in Fifield? Yeah, uh in the book, it was booked by Chad Lewis, Road Guide to Haunted Places in Wisconsin. Uh, he talks about the it's kind of a paranormal nexus because there is so many legends built up just about this place. It's called Holy Cross Road in Fifield, Wisconsin. Where is Fifield for those listening and myself? It's between Park Falls and Phillips and Price County. Is that way up there? So if you take if you go up to Rhinelander, visit the Hodag, instead of going right into Rhinelander on Highway A, you take a left and you head east towards Prentice, and then you go up north towards uh Park Falls, and it's between Park Falls and Phillips. And uh tiny little town, uh very unassuming, but they have the story of this haunted railroad track, and there's a paranormal dare involved, which I love that wrinkle. Whenever there's something that you can do to try to put yourself into the story, to interact, to try to to have uh an experience. So you're supposed to drive, go to Holy Crossroads, so it's kind of got a mystical name and park on the tracks, put your car in neutral, and it said that ghost children are supposed to push you to safety because when they were alive, they weren't so fortunate and they were killed on that track. Whether there's any validity to that story, I'm not sure, but it's built up enough legend around it. So that's a long way of saying that this is the place where the gnomes visit. There is a woods along that road, and it's said that if you get out of your car and you throw a rock into that woods, something will throw a rock back at you. Now I haven't done this there yet. I hope to soon. But uh, I would love to get uh a rock whipped out my head just for confirmation. But people say that the party responsible for that rock are the notes.

SPEAKER_04
16:45

Fascinating. So you go up there, you park your car on the railroad track, put it in neutral, hopefully get pushed to safety. Yes. And then go throw a rock in the woods to see what happens.

SPEAKER_00
16:58

Okay, we're in Northwoods of Wisconsin. A lot of people are bored. You know, you really can't tip a cow, uh, you know, much to Chris Farley's sugar and Tommy Boy. It's not not quite possible. But you can at least throw a rock at a gnome if you need something to do on a Friday night.

SPEAKER_04
17:15

You can. You can.

SPEAKER_01
17:16

Do you think that the gnomes are these like grumpy old men like we have depicted on our label? Uh you know, with big long white hair and big.

SPEAKER_00
17:23

I've heard they're your traditional uh gnome garb, as you would see in a garden. But I do like the artwork on the can. I think that that fits well.

SPEAKER_04
17:34

And um since you're releasing the hodeg again next year, and that's such a popular one. Do you want to touch on that? Yeah. The hodeg of Rylander. Which they got that was in Rhylander not too long ago. They got they got hodags all over the place. They got a big one in front of the Chamber of Commerce.

SPEAKER_00
17:50

Um there. Yes, the that's the big guy, and it's right there when you drive in. So the Rhinelander is known for the hodeg, and it comes from the lumbering days of Wisconsin, back when it was just a huge pine forest. And there was a guy by the name of Eugene Shepherd, he was a Chikol timber cruiser, and he would explore the Northwoods near Rhinelander looking for cuts of timber. He did a lot of the early maps and a lot of the surveys of the area. And then he would go to companies out east that were in native timber products, and then he would facilitate uh the transaction and take his cut of that. So he really fell in love with Rhinelander and he didn't want it to be just another soddist city where everything is just cut. He wanted to make it into a resort town. So he thought, what better way to get people there than to have its own monster? So it started as a lumberjack tale of this beast of the Northwoods that lumberjacks would encounter and people would go look for this thing. Well, Gene Shepherd, he decided to actually go out and hunt it. The first expedition, he actually killed one and burnt it to a crisp. But coincidentally enough, right before the inaugural Oneida County Fair in 1896, he captured one and he brought it to the fair and he put it in a darkened tent, and people came and they paid a dime to enter the tent to see this beast. Now, what the people encountered was a darkened tent with a thin tarp between it and a lot of growling and commotion. So people came out of that tent believing that there was a wild animal in there. So he kept the roost up for several years until he finally spilled it. You know, uh it wasn't really a hodag, but the hodag's still out there in the woods of Rhinelander, so come up to Rhinelander. The fishing's great, and if you you get squirrely, you can go look for a hodag.

SPEAKER_04
19:57

So I so I was curious, because yeah, he did actually bring some set up at a fair. Yes. But later at his house. No no one could see it? Was it some other kind of animal dressed up as a hodag or what from anything?

SPEAKER_00
20:12

From my interpretation, it was his kids on the other side. Um slapping at the tarp, making growling sounds, uh clanking around. And there's a modern interpretation of of the legend now. Uh my friend Carrie and Ben from uh Carrie from the Logging Museum, Ben from the Hodag store. Did you stop at the Hodag store while you're up there?

SPEAKER_04
20:34

I did not, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_00
20:36

Yeah, next time through. But uh they have a new contraption where it is a a hodag in a crate and it makes all kinds of commotion. The kids absolutely love it. It lights up, it rumbles, smoke comes out, and he does a whole carnival barker act around it at the Hodeg Heritage Fest. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Josh, you were up there.

SPEAKER_01
21:00

Yeah, I I've experienced uh well, shout out to Ben. He uh I got to hang out with him for a couple hours and we were up there. Um, he actually put on a hoodeg costume and led me into the woods for a whole photo shoot. It was absolutely hilarious. That's great. I asked him to get into this like Burt Reynolds pose where he like laid down and like, you know. Um so that was great. Yeah, Ben is an awesome guy. But yeah, I saw the hot egg uh in the box, and it is just as frightening as uh as Jeff describes. It's pretty cool. And wall to wall, I mean hodeg, everything you can think of, wall to wall. Yes, in the shape of a hodeg or with a hodeg on it, or whatever. It was everything is pretty incredible, yeah. Great stop.

SPEAKER_04
21:39

Um, we're gonna get into some Milwaukee stuff, but Josh informed me about um Pepe. Pepe, yeah. The Lake Ma I'd never heard of the Mississippi monster. Yeah. So have you heard of this breeze?

SPEAKER_00
21:52

This is in your neck of the woods.

unknown
21:54

I think so. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00
21:55

So Lake Pepin is like a backwater of of um The Mid Mississippi River.

SPEAKER_04
22:01

By like Hudson, Wisconsin?

SPEAKER_00
22:03

Near there, yeah. I think it's just south. And sorry, my geography is not that great with a map. But it's along the river, along the border, because it borders both Wisconsin and Minnesota. It was actually where water skiing was invented. Uh just to put that in your hat. But there is uh supposedly this lake monster living in Lake Pepin, and they call him Pepe. And one of the the um boat operators there, like the river boat operators, um, actually sponsored a bounty that if you could uh provide proof of Pepi, you could win fifty thousand dollars. I believe that's got gone unclaimed.

SPEAKER_01
22:42

So it's still active though to this day. Yeah, I believe so.

SPEAKER_04
22:45

When did when did he bring that up?

SPEAKER_00
22:48

I think it was the mid-2000s. Okay. When when he officially launched that. Have there ever been any sightings or supposed sightings? I I believe there's sightings every year. Whether they're um credible, that's another story. Now there was a folklorist by the name of Charles E. Brown, and one of his quotes was a and this was the 1915, 1920s, he said, uh, a resort town without a lake monster is behind the times. And he kind of you know lifted the veil on the fact that a lot of people, just like Gene Shepherd in, you know, the 1890s with Rhinelander, a lot of people were attracting people to the area with this monster tourism, uh, you know, as we do today with uh with the beer kind of celebrate the folklore of the area. Nobody owns Bigfoot, nobody owns the hodag. But you know, if a product is fine as three sheeps wants to celebrate it on their cans, more the merrier. So Pepe's kind of like the the lachness monster of Wisconsin and Minnesota. Well, the funny thing is they're for just about every lake, including all of the lakes in Madison, they have their own resident, Lake Monster. Uh Winnie, Winnebago, Jenny, Lake Geneva. Creatively named. Very creative. Nessie for Loch Ness, Peppy for Peppin. What about the Man Bat of La Crosse? You must have checked out my Instagram.

SPEAKER_01
24:21

No, but that was crazy timing. I saw, yeah.

SPEAKER_00
24:25

That's funny because I just posted about that. You did today? No, uh earlier this week. Okay. Yep. So yeah, the man-bat of lacrosse. Um, a winged humanoid creature witnessed in, I think, 2006 by a couple native gentlemen, uh, just came upon their truck while driving down Briggs Road in Holman, Wisconsin, and had a freakish encounter with something they couldn't explain. The passenger in the truck, I believe that was a younger gentleman, um, he had a fit of nausea uh right after that. So they experienced something. And uh funny story is my sister lives in Holman now, and she had moved there in 2020 from from Phoenix, and you know, she just got settled in. I'm like, oh, have you heard about the Holman man bat on Briggs Road? She's like, I drive down Brick Road all the time. Don't joke about that. So um apparently it happened, it's out there, it's in the lore.

SPEAKER_01
25:24

So that's like a modern encounter, which is pretty unique, right? Yeah. I mean, what so what do you how do you what do you attribute that to? What did those people see in 2006?

SPEAKER_00
25:32

I mean, you know, a lot of people in they happen along Lake Michigan as well. So from where we're sitting down through Chicago, along, and they call it the Lake Michigan Mothman, and that is seen along the shores of Lake Michigan. A lot of people attribute it to misidentification of large birds, you know, cranes, heron, heron. I don't know if you've run into a crane in the wild, but they are very large birds and they make a terrifying noise. And I think that could be responsible, but you know, I like to hold out hope that there's something a little beyond the strange.

SPEAKER_04
26:07

But like 2005, was that all over the news then I'm guessing?

SPEAKER_00
26:11

Yeah. I'd have to pull the actual uh I read about it in Linda Gottfried's book, Yeah, Wisconsin Monsters, but 2005, that's still pre-camera phones and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04
26:22

Um, but like today you would think if if people see something, they're just gonna go like this, unless it's just in a flash almost.

SPEAKER_00
26:29

Yeah, in a lot of these encounters, a lot of people are stupefied and they won't have their faculties together enough to pull out their camera phone and take it. And some that do, you know, it just ends up as a blurry picture.

SPEAKER_01
26:44

It does seem like every encounter ends with a a picture that looks like it was shot on, you know, a crummy camera. Even now.

SPEAKER_00
26:54

There's there's a great Mitch Head Headberg joke about the Bigfoot just being a blurry creature walking through the woods. Rip in peace. Mitch Hedberg.

SPEAKER_04
27:05

Um, and then I mean one one more encrypted for next year, Wendigo of the North Woods.

unknown
27:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00
27:14

So Chad Lewis, the guy that did the Wisconsin Guide, uh Road Guide to Haunted Places, he and his uh writing partner, Kevin Lee Nelson, they really went deep into the legend of the Wendigo. And even after writing the book, they felt like they just didn't know enough. So it is, I believe, an Algonquin tale of a large flesh-eating monster that roams the north woods of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Canada as well. And it is a winter creature. And uh Chad has done several seminars or talks on this creature, you know, showing his book. And the native people they do not like hearing that word, especially in the winter months, because they believe that just invoking its name could bring it into their presence. And there have been recent sightings really um in the Northwoods of Wisconsin, even during the summer months, uh, a couple young men at a summer camp way up in the Northwoods. Um I I can't remember the exact location at the moment, but they had what they uh thought was the Wendigo. They had seen it and then they looked into what it might be, and then the Wendigo stuff popped up and kind of confirmed it. And and Chad for the book interviewed them and he he felt like they were very credible in their story. Chad Chad believes this is real. I don't know if Chad believes it's real, but he believes that these kids experienced something they couldn't the Wendows Wendigo is kind of having its moment, huh?

SPEAKER_01
28:54

In pop culture and stuff. You see, I feel like you see more and more Wendigo's and like video games.

SPEAKER_00
28:59

The Wendigo uh amateur hockey team. Yeah as well.

SPEAKER_01
29:02

True, yeah. Is it uh is it Eagle River? I can't remember, but I know you are you are correct, yeah.

SPEAKER_04
29:10

Josh, how did you come up with these cryptids? Which ones to make beers of?

SPEAKER_01
29:15

Oh man, I mean, we tried to do some that are obviously well known, um, some that were a little more light-hearted, like the gnomes, um or like Peppy, you know, a little more lighthearted. Um, but yeah, just I don't know, just the ones that that caught my eye, I think that had um good stories behind them. Um, you know, encounter stories that people, you know, seem to be pretty legit, you know. So that's kind of how we picked them.

SPEAKER_04
29:40

Is there anything you guys do with the flavor depending on the the story?

SPEAKER_01
29:44

Yeah, so I mean, I'm just a marketing guy, so I don't get you know, I don't get into the science of brewing too much. Shout out to Dr.

SPEAKER_04
29:50

Nate over there as a fantastic name.

SPEAKER_01
29:53

Obviously, our owner, our brewmaster, Grant Polly. Um, but yeah, I mean he he's excited, especially this year, about going anywhere, you know, he's gonna fly out to Washington to Yakima Valley and pick out hops specifically for these this next set of cryptid beers, and he wants to kind of match their personalities with the hops and you know, all that kind of stuff, and kind of build it to the character that is gonna be on the label. So, yeah, he's really excited about that.

SPEAKER_04
30:17

Jeff, um, what is your favorite Milwaukee area story? Hey everyone, hope you're enjoying this episode. Just a reminder that the fall is a fantastic place to enjoy the foliage and also get your life together, and that means looking at your finances. Annex is a holistic wealth management firm with offices in and all around Milwaukee that helps you with everything retirement planning, smart investing, estate planning, legacy planning, and tax strategies all under one roof. If you need help with your finances, reach out to our good friends over at Annex Wealth Management. Know the difference. That is annexwealth.com. annexwealth.com. All right, let's get back with Josh and Jeff.

SPEAKER_00
31:04

One of my favorites is one that you can experience on any given day in Milwaukee, and that is the St. Joan of Arc Chapel on Marquette's campus. I know Richie's a Marquette alum, so I will ask you have you visited the chapel?

SPEAKER_04
31:22

I have been in the chapel, yeah, right on campus there.

SPEAKER_00
31:25

Okay, and then have you touched the Joan of Arc's stone? I've not touched the stone. You need to you need to touch the stone. Okay. So just to back up, the St. Joan of Arc's Chapel is the oldest building in Wisconsin. It is an import from France, and from that name, um, we know that it is associated with St. St. Joan of Arc by legend. It said that she visited the chapel in the Rhone Valley and she prayed to the Mother Mary. And when she was done praying, she kissed the stone that she was kneeling on. So that chapel was disassembled. It was brought to New York by a railroad magnate's daughter. Upon her death, it was acquired by a philanthropist that thought a great place for it would be right there on the Marquette campus. So they reconstructed it there, and uh they brought in that altar stone and they put it in a wall niche. Now, the interesting thing about that stone is that if you lay your hands on the St. Joan of Arc stone, it is discernibly colder than the surrounding stonework. And I've done it. I don't know if it's just a trick of the imagination. There was a very nice docent showing it off, so I didn't want to like pull out like a thermometer and being like, is this thing really colder? I'm gonna debunk this right now. I didn't do that, but uh I definitely feel like it it felt colder. So I would say to anybody to uh visit the chapel just for the historical sake, uh beautiful old chapel, and then to experience that stuff.

SPEAKER_04
33:06

I've actually not been inside of it before. Okay. I was thinking of J Zoo, which is the very old church on Marquette's campus, but the chapel is yeah, it's tucked away behind the library and in that you know, nice, nice green area.

SPEAKER_00
33:17

Yeah, nice little quad area. Yeah. It's beautiful, and it's it's kind of unexpected because you're in downtown Milwaukee, you walk through a couple buildings, and then you're in this beautiful green area. This old French chapel is just sitting there in the courtyard. And you'll have to check the hours before you go to make sure that you know it's going to be open. But uh it's something that I would say any Milwaukee or somebody visiting Milwaukee should check out.

SPEAKER_01
33:44

Richie told me that he's afraid of chapels because the possibility of bursting in the flames when he steps in.

SPEAKER_04
33:51

I'm afraid of a lot of things that was not top of mind, but uh good good to know now.

SPEAKER_00
33:57

Going to your Catholic schools and um, you know, a Catholic college definitely can develop some phobias over the years, I can say from personal experience.

SPEAKER_04
34:06

Yeah. Yeah. Um what what about the little people of Muskego? That gets some buzz around this area.

SPEAKER_00
34:12

Yes, and that is probably one of my favorites, and that's just a step outside of Milwaukee. So that is in Muskego, a neighboring uh what what would you say? A sub a Milwaukee suburb, yeah. So right by New Berlin. You know, I think this one really cropped up in the 1980s, a place called Mystic Drive in Moskegos. So it already has kind of a spooky notion. It said that if you drive down to the end of Mystic Drive, you'll be greeted by a colony of little people. Now, the story behind the little people is they were retired circus folk. Some say that they were they were disgruntled workers in the circus and they killed the ringmaster. Um, and then they moved to Mosquego, moved in, and there was a farmer on the land. They killed and hung the farmer in the barn there. So there's a lot of spookiness there. Uh at one point there was stone huts there that may have contributed to legend. I think those um those were connected to some of the Finnish settlers that came to Milwaukee um in the mid-1800s. And I think that's kind of what explains them. And then some people say, well, there's uh waist-high stop signs, and uh the best one is there was an albino uh gentleman that guards the end of Mystic Drive to the place called Haunchyville. And that's the name of the colony of little people, Haunchyville. And that's what it's known for. You know, unfortunately, over the years, Mystic Drive has been populated by large estates, uh you know, multi-acre mansions down there. So a lot of the mystique has kind of worn off, but the folklore uh still rings through. And that would probably be a cool beer as well, Josh. What what time period did this take place allegedly? So people would legend trip there in like the eighties or nineties and head down there and search around for the haunches. The first time I heard about the legend was in a book called Weird Wisconsin, and that came out in the early 2000s, and that's when it kind of really came into prominence. I know somebody who grew up in uh Big Bend, and it was well known in high school as kind of uh a place to head on a Friday night for what they called a fright night, uh, where they could go check out something spooky and maybe get a little thrill. Um, and a co-host of mine on the Wisconsin Legends podcast, we did a full one-hour episode on it. Uh, he grew up in Big Bend and he went down to the end of Mystic Drive into Haunchyville, and he went with uh I think his buddy and two girls, and while he was walking down there, uh one of those big birds, not the Mothman, but a crane, uh spooked him and he ran back to the car. And he tells it on the podcast, it's a hilarious story.

SPEAKER_04
37:24

So did they think it was still inhabited by little people then?

SPEAKER_00
37:30

I I think by that time it was well known that the little people may have moved on. Okay. But there was a lot of people that said, yeah, it's it's an abandoned colony.

SPEAKER_04
37:40

So there were no no official sightings of them? No. Okay. Not to my knowledge. What about any um you said the the rave? The rave in Milwaukee. Yeah. It's very popular venue.

SPEAKER_00
37:56

Would people know Rave, they call it the Rave or Eagles Ballroom. It was originally an Eagles Club, it had bowling alley, boxing room, gym, the swimming pool down there, which I think you can still like go into almost not full of water, but it looks cool. A lot of the bands will that visit will do like a photo shoot in the pool, and they'll sign their names along the top of top of the wall. And it's just kind of a creepy uh vibe down there. They open it up for Halloween for ghost tours. Um, the sad reality is though, a 15-year-old boy did die in that pool, and they say that his ghost still haunts it. What year did that take place? Uh, I don't have the era at all. I think it was probably the 1940s, if I had to guess.

SPEAKER_03
38:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_00
38:46

So the rave was around back then. It was yeah, it under it wasn't the rave, it was the Eagles Club. So it was a fraternal order of the Eagles who inhabited it. Interesting. And had all of the amenities as kind of a private club, and then eventually it was a music venue.

SPEAKER_01
39:08

You know what I want to hear more about? I want to hear more about the Pfister. Because I know that like sports teams, there are like people who professional athletes who will refuse to stay in that place because they've had encounters that they can't, you know.

SPEAKER_00
39:24

Now, Fister Hotel, that yeah, incredible place, beautiful old world design, Victorian era. It is gorgeous in there. 1893. Yeah, even if you don't stay there and you're in Milwaukee, just pop in and walk through the lobby. I last time I was in Milwaukee, I just popped in and just like roamed the floors until somebody asked me what I was doing.

SPEAKER_04
39:44

Yeah, and I mean Mason Street Grill's a good spot in there. You can take the elevator up all the way up to blue, maybe the best view in the city up there.

SPEAKER_00
39:51

Yeah, it's it's uh a gorgeous old hotel, but it is also in fine accommodations, and that's why it is the choice um housing for the visiting teams for both the Brewers and the Bucks, and a lot of famous uh MLB players in particular. Now, baseball players are probably your most superstitious of all athletes, maybe golfers there too, but very routine-oriented, very superstitious, very, very matter-of-fact. So the fact that they do it is is kind of um it's on par for for them. But um Bryce Harper famously uh stayed there and was spooked out enough that I believe he moved rooms. Mookie bets, he absolutely refuses to stay there and seeks other accommodations while in Milwaukee. Now, if I could ask one favor of Charles Pfister, the proprietor who said to haunt there, is if the Dodgers end up coming in the playoffs to Milwaukee, please, Mr. Pfister, why don't you give Joey Otani a hell of a night? Especially if you see it. We might need that. Because we will need that. We will need that. Let's ruin their sleep, I agree.

SPEAKER_04
41:11

Did they have any very weird encounters?

SPEAKER_00
41:14

So um Bryce Harper said that clothing and furniture was even moved around his room. And I believe when Carlos Gomez, former brewer, when he stayed there as uh a twin when he was with Minnesota before he came to Milwaukee, he also had an encounter there where um I believe stuff was moved in his room. Um a lot of times electronics glitch unexpectedly, um, footsteps in rooms, just uh lights flickering, all kinds of crazy paranormal phenomenon in the old fister.

SPEAKER_04
41:51

Yeah, it's funny. We had an episode with the brewer's wives a few weeks ago, and one of one of them refused to stay here one night before her husband got traded to the brewers when they were in town.

SPEAKER_00
42:01

Yeah. Yeah. And I wouldn't deter anybody from staying there because it's world-class accommodations, beautiful old hotel. And I guess for me, if I had a ghost encounter, it'd just be a bonus.

SPEAKER_04
42:12

You got anything on our neighbor Shakers down the street?

SPEAKER_00
42:15

Yeah, Shakers is an old cigar bar. Um it's I believe it was a barrel stave mill before it was um before prohibition um you know, barreling. And it was apparently owned by Al Capone and his brother. You know, it's unverifiable whenever a high-profile gangster owns something, it's not gonna be in his name, right? But that is at least the legend is that Capone was uh one of the owners of it. Uh apparently Jeffrey Dahmer stayed there, and then uh there is supposed to be a ghost of a little girl, and her name's Elizabeth that haunts the bathrooms there. So Brie, next time you're there, stay out of the ladies' room. They even named a martini after her, the little Elizabeth, the Elizabeth Raspberry Martini. Have people reported any any encounters with her, or it's just rumored. Knocking on the stalls while they're using them. Um some people report to actually have seen the little girl. Um, I guess take that for what it's worth. And, you know, speaking of a little girl, you know, knocking on the doors, uh seeing the little girl, but that's the main one. Apparently in the basement they have also had um activity with a malicious spirit. Somebody not so happy. Kind of activity with the malicious spirit. You know, a lot of times in paranormal, I can't speak to spit shakers, that would be being pushed, being scratched, uh, even hearing disembodied voices that um yell at you and uh Smoky apparitions actually coming with the cigar haze while people are smoking. Um wispy uh figures appearing within that smoke.

SPEAKER_04
44:10

And being in this world, do you have a lot of friends or people who have had these ghost encounters and have actually been pushed or shoved before?

SPEAKER_00
44:19

You know, I've had people that have been scratched for sure. Some people that, yeah, they say that like they were knocked off balance by something or they've had cold rushes of stuff coming through them, uh, people seeing full body apparitions. Uh yeah. So just kind of not like you're getting in a fist fight with something you can't see that doesn't really happen in real life. I don't think you're gonna get knocked out or go like 10 rounds with Tyson on with a ghost, but you know, you might have uh something push you, knock you off balance, or um a lot of people with um you know more vestibular things with something rushing through them and losing balance. Yeah. Yeah. Josh, you have any more you'd like to know about?

SPEAKER_01
45:02

I just I think that the knocking on the stalls is one of the more frightening things that you know an entity could do. Especially that just feels like it just feels like such a private moment and like you're still vulnerable. Like that always freaks me out. I mean, you that's like uh you know, that's like a cliche in horror movies, right?

SPEAKER_00
45:20

You're in the stall and then you see feet and stuff, and oh no, that's yeah, I I seek out this stuff, but the one place I don't want to encounter it, like, is in my bedroom.

SPEAKER_04
45:30

Yeah, it's like just because you could never sleep in there again, or no, it's just like that's kind of my sanctuary.

SPEAKER_00
45:36

It's where I would that's where I want to stay. I didn't want anybody up in my business while you know, trying to get disease. And uh the Maxwell Mansion, Lake Geneva. I stayed there with my wife. Um there is Is it is it a bed and breakfast, a dead and breakfast?

SPEAKER_04
45:53

What is the Maxwell Mansion?

SPEAKER_00
45:55

Maxwell Mansion is uh it was a private residence by a doctor in Maxwell, and since then it has been turned into more of a a bed and breakfast without the the breakfast. So just a uh a fancier hotel in downtown Lake Geneva, and then they have the stables in the back. Now the stables weren't part of the original structure, it used to be like a roadside motel, but they converted it and kind of um incorporated it into the main, and that's where we stayed in the the stables. And uh my wife, me and my wife were there, and the first night went to sleep. Um my wife woke up in the the middle of the night, she's laying on her side, and she felt a hand touch her back, and it was so distinct that she thought it was me. She turned you you were you were in bed with her, I'm guessing. Yeah, so she was facing, so she would have been facing left, I would have been facing right, yep, and then she rolls over to see like what's up, and turns around and I'm sound asleep facing the other direction. Nope. Yeah. Wow. But she's had more paranormal encounters than me, and she doesn't go looking for the stuff. So are you pissed off about that? A little jealous. You gotta be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04
47:12

What else has happened to her?

SPEAKER_00
47:14

Is that the worked in she worked in a hospital? She's a she's a nurse practitioner, but she was also uh a a nurse for a while, and she it was a hospital in Madison, and she was walking through an abandoned part of uh an old pediatric unit, and she had felt something on her ankle, and when she got home, she had scratches on her ankle from something inside that hospital. Dude, no. And she was she was just scratches. This was on night on a night shift. She when we first met, she worked a lot of overnight. So she came home and said, You will not believe this. And in that same unit, uh there was a an out a door that went outside, and there was a bell from the outside to that door. So, like if somebody was making a delivery, they'd ring the bell. So several times uh that bell would ring, they would open the door immediately, and nobody would be there. Stop it. Really? Yeah. Hospitals are wild, man. You know, I think just uh the emotion coming through there, the amount of deaths, uh just a primer for spirit activity. Especially in a pediatrics area. She she was, yeah. She's she is now a nurse practitioner and pediatrics.

SPEAKER_01
48:41

The words night shift and abandoned should never be in the same sense. I don't want to go anywhere on the night shift, anything abandoned.

SPEAKER_00
48:47

And abandoned may have been a strong word. It was just like uh the decommissioned, they weren't using the space anymore for pediatrics, but yes, still pediatrics. So some people just die and their spirit hangs around. I would think that's the the most popular opinion is that yeah, they don't you know, either an impression of who they were in this life remains there, or possibly like a lost soul, which is incredibly sad when if you think of children. Other people think that uh maybe more malevolent entities like to be around death and dying. And I'm not sure what to make of that, but that's uh that is a theory.

SPEAKER_04
49:35

Any anywhere else in Milwaukee that is haunted?

SPEAKER_00
49:39

Grant Park. We talked about that as a great place to do a fall hike. Seven Bridges Trail. Seven Bridges Trail. Gorgeous. It's supposed to be haunted. So the um the entry bridge, have you ever heard the entry bridge?

SPEAKER_04
49:53

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've I've I've been over there several times.

SPEAKER_00
49:55

Enter this wild wood and view the haunts of nature, which I just love because it kind of evokes some emotion. But apparently, each one of the bridges has their own story of some kind of entity or encounter. Unfortunately, some people have taken their lives there and may haunt that woods. I've heard uh scream, people reporting screams from the beach, and they go there thinking that they're gonna find somebody in distress, and there's absolutely no one.

SPEAKER_01
50:27

But you were there.

SPEAKER_04
50:28

Did you encounter anything? I have not. I've been I've been there several times. Grant and I had a had a beer on the beach, which is more pleasant than hearing someone screaming and walking over there and not seeing anything. So um wait for the sun to set and then go. Yeah, no, I I have not I haven't been there like at night or anything. I've just been there during during the day. Yeah, we've we've been over there. It's it's a great spot. Nice little golf course by there too, and a nice beach as well.

SPEAKER_01
50:57

Yeah. So Jeff, you've never had like this you know, mountaintop experience. Yeah. Do you feel like how do you feel like you'd really react? Because it's like one thing to like abstractly, you know, be involved in this stuff and like be curious, but like when something like that were to if something like that were to actually happen, how do you prepare yourself for that?

SPEAKER_00
51:17

You know, I've had enough encounters with this stuff that I guess I would have more, I'm I'm guessing I would have kind of a more kind of wonder, like being like, oh my God, like encountering this, and kind of maybe like not quite in your body experience, be like, is am I experiencing what I'm experiencing? Because and I've had I've had you know several encounters with you know things I couldn't explain. Like the closest thing I've had to like an apparition is like I've saw like a glimmering haze of something, and this was also in an abandoned hospital. It was a hospital, and then it was also a nursing home after that. And that was preceded by a loud metallic bang. And that was uh I was with a group of people and I thought somebody was putting putting it on, and uh there was nothing around us that would make that noise, like a like loud hollow sheet metal, like somebody kicked like a like a ductwork. Do you get terrified during any of this stuff? Or are you pretty chill? I'm pretty chill. Um, you know, there are there are times that you do get the hackles up on your neck, um, you get an uneasy feeling. But you kind of like that. You definitely go in seeking that for sure. Because you you are trying to encounter whatever is there, or else you wouldn't do this. But yeah, there are times where it's you you get a little anxious and you get a little disturbed.

SPEAKER_04
52:57

Are there like any low-hanging fruit encounters around Wisconsin where you have a higher probability of having that experience, and then some that you're kind of like, oh, this probably isn't gonna happen at all, but like let's chase it because it would be something.

SPEAKER_00
53:14

The the Sheboygan Asylum would definitely be up there just because you know it's publicly accessible. A lot of this stuff is either you know close to the public, private residence, or maybe it's not um open at night, but you know, places that have a specific, you know, aim to experience that stuff. Old Baraboo Inn in Baraboo, obviously, also has a lot of uh legends about um that was another place that was purportedly owned or at least visited by El Capone. Um a lot of murder in Mayhem, uh a lot of just kind of unbridled crime has happened in that area, and you know, back when we were the wild, wild west out here.

SPEAKER_01
54:02

So that's just downtown Baraboo. Downtown Baraboo, yeah. There's some circus law around Baraboo, too, right? Only a couple bunches.

SPEAKER_04
54:08

Yeah, it's a cute little downtown.

SPEAKER_00
54:10

Yeah, they they've done a lot. Um, they've I believe the Wisconsin Historical Society bought the theater, the Al Wrinkling Theater. Um, there is a brewery that there now, they make their own beer. Um the uh interesting story there is when they were renovating the Al Wrangling mansion, which is now the brewery, um, they found uh a box hidden beneath the floorboards that had an old Bavarian beer recipe. So now that is one of their beers that is um that that they brew. I tried just randomly in this house. But it it was yeah, the wringlings and apparently somebody left uh their beer recipe there. That's cool. I'm not sure. I can't remember exactly who they attributed to that, but it was a family beer recipe for the ringlings. And uh have you been there? I have not. Okay, but I tried the beer, it was very the old world bavarian taste. Yeah, not not really my cup of tea for beer, but you know, to some people that might be kind of kind of a stale schlitzer papst tape flavor.

SPEAKER_04
55:16

Do you have like a favorite uh true story that happened in Wisconsin?

SPEAKER_00
55:22

So I don't know how true it is, but my favorite story from Wisconsin is 1961, Eagle River. Now you've been up to Eagle River, uh resort community, but if you get off the beaten path, off of the main lakes, it's very rural, it's very like cabinet, resorty. Um 1961, there was a guy, he was a plumber and a chicken farmer, and he lived out in the country. His name was Joe Simonton. Real person, real person, okay. Uh you can actually see videos of this gentleman talking about his encounter. But what his encounter was, is uh it's about midday on an April day, he's outside, and a circular craft that he described as being brighter than chrome came down and landed, but not quite, just hovered on his property. Out pops a latch or a hatch, and an occupant steps out, and he's holding a jug that looks like water. And uh he's kind of waving in at Joe. Joe walks over and thinks, okay, this guy wants some water. He's not really sure what to think about this at the moment. So he retrieves the jug, fills it up, returns it to the occupant. And while he is making this exchange, Joe Simonton being a plumber, he's a mechanical guy. He looks inside the craft and he sees another occupant at what looks like a flat top grill. And he's making what looks like pancakes. And he says something to the effect of what you make in there. So the other occupant takes these off of the griddle and hands them to Joe Simonton. And uh they look like almost like coasters, they're very thin, um, but almost pancake-like. And people have said these are pancakes from outer space, and that's Joe Simonton's experience. And he actually kept the cakes, he actually tried a bite out of one, and this was back in the 1960s. So there was a lot of kind of um homebrew uh uh UFO, there's a lot of UFO settings around the Cold War um UFO societies, and somebody retrieved one of those cakes, sent it off to be tested. It seemed to be just like a regular buckwheat pancake, but uh its origins are unknown. Uh as far as Joe Simon, if you watch the the newsreel clippings of Joe Siminton, it sounds like he is forthright. He's a very soft-spoken guy, very metered, very logical. And whatever he experienced that day, I believe he experienced it. I don't know what to make of it, but it's uh one of my favorite stories from Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_04
58:20

I'm an you know about this.

SPEAKER_01
58:22

I don't know, but I'm thinking that that's either a great beer name or a great band name, Pancakes from Outer Space.

SPEAKER_00
58:27

That's that that definitely has to make it into your cryptid.

SPEAKER_04
58:30

That's a good one. So I'm I'm envisioning like a flying saucer.

SPEAKER_00
58:34

That's how he described it, almost like yeah.

SPEAKER_04
58:36

He said Did he say how big the inhabitants were? Was it tiny? Was it?

SPEAKER_00
58:41

I'm glad you asked that because he said that they were they were small men with a swarthy complexion. What is swarthy would be like a dark, he he called he referred to them as Italian-looking men. So like uh Mediterranean-looking guys, but they were they were smaller than him. If you look up Joe Simonton, he's kind of like a big burly dude that you'd see like up north Wisconsin, right? Uh real round face, he was probably mid-50s at the time, balding, heavier set guy. And these guys were a lot smaller. They were wearing jumpsuits and hats, and he he referred to them as Italian looking.

SPEAKER_01
59:23

That's pretty bold of him to walk up to these. I mean, that's that takes curves.

SPEAKER_00
59:27

The guy waved the waved the jug, and you know, it's just a Midwest courtesy. You know, would Midwest night somebody needs something, you're gonna get it for them, right? They didn't look like aliens. They didn't look like little green. And this was before the time of like the little green men trope.

SPEAKER_04
59:44

Are you thinking they were like if he's a big guy, are you thinking they were like five, five, five, or are they like two feet tall? Do you think that's a few more?

SPEAKER_00
59:51

I would say closer to because he didn't say like they looked otherworldly, he just said they were small, yeah Italian-looking guys. So I I would think probably like you know, like low fives.

SPEAKER_04
1:00:02

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00
1:00:04

And you know, I think if he experienced something, it may have been like some kind of government test craft, and these guys needed the water for something, but you know, they've since then we haven't released any craft that looks like that.

unknown
1:00:19

That we know of.

SPEAKER_00
1:00:21

Well, I mean, to the public, right? So that's probably my favorite story of this nature from Wisconsin. You get you got anything else you want to tell us before we let you go here? No, I think we covered a lot of ground. Um I would say to anybody who's interested in this stuff, Milwaukee has three ghost walks uh done by American Ghost Walks. Uh let's see, they got Third Ward, Brady Street, and City Hall or the shadows of City Hall. Uh hop on one of those, see what you have to learn. We got the Milwaukee Paracon coming up, I believe that's October 18th. That's at Kachansky's this year. So a new venue, smaller, more intimate venue. Kachansky's in Stallus, I think. I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_04
1:01:08

I think that's wrapped by the dog shelter.

SPEAKER_00
1:01:10

Um volunteer over there anyway. My are you gonna be there? I'll be there speaking.

SPEAKER_05
1:01:14

Nice.

SPEAKER_00
1:01:15

Not sure what I'm gonna talk about, but it's it's on the agenda. Yeah, it's always always a great event. It's free to the public. So come out, you know, if you're interested in this stuff. Lots of people to talk to about this, a lot of literature, a lot of local lore that you can learn.

SPEAKER_04
1:01:29

What are what are you uh what are you chasing this fall?

SPEAKER_00
1:01:32

Or are you going anywhere? Not specifically. I just wrapped up my uh ghost paddles and my ghost pontoon and you know, just kind of gonna hit a couple. Um, there is a another event in Green Bay called Potography. I know you like the the dogs, um, that goes to uh one of the local shelters there, all the proceeds. So I'll I'll be donating my time as far as um giving a presentation and you know talking about um spooky stuff. So it's a paranormal conference slash benefit. Very photographs, yeah.

SPEAKER_04
1:02:08

Cool. Josh, when when does the gnomes of Fiftfield drop?

SPEAKER_01
1:02:13

That one is releasing uh in November. So that'll be the fourth, the fourth beer completing the set for those who have been collecting them. We'll be releasing in November, and then we'll have four more uh next year. So that's a nice label.

SPEAKER_04
1:02:28

You guys won all IPAs this year, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01
1:02:30

Yeah, I mean these these 16 ounces are usually our like our foray into um you know kind of like that premium IPA yeah um kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00
1:02:40

It's uh can you give us a teaser on the on maybe maybe a reveal or a teaser for the next cryptid in the season?

SPEAKER_01
1:02:49

Well we did them all already, actually. So next year we're doing the Wendigo of the Northigo, okay. Uh Peppy and Lake Monster. Okay. And um Running the Back Code Dag. Yep, running back code egg, and then the man bad of the cross.

SPEAKER_00
1:03:01

Oh, you are doing the man bad.

SPEAKER_01
1:03:02

Yep. Awesome. Yep, yep. So that's uh leak, we're leaking that now. Because of the first people in here. All right.

SPEAKER_04
1:03:10

That was a fun one. Hope to have you back sometime. Alright everyone, thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of Milwaukee Uncut before signing off to someone thank our partners who make Milwaukee Uncut possible. Three sheeps, the beer Wisconsin drinks, drink Wisconsin with the beverage company in ex wealth management in Nicolella.