Steve “Saz” Sazama: From a bartender with a small loan to building an iconic Milwaukee brand

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Hey guys, welcome back to Milwaukee Uncut. We've got a special episode with an absolute legend, and this one was not planned. So a couple weeks ago, I was creating a video for Saz's 50th anniversary, thinking I would get a couple sound bites from the founder Steve Sazama, and ended up getting 25 minutes of Milwaukee greatness that included the Saz's origin story and how he went from nearly going broke to building an iconic company with over 800 employees and five divisions, 800 employees every summer. He had some great stories about Don Nelson, Robin Youth, and more Milwaukee Legends. We talked Summerfest, the State Fair, his expansion, best bars in Milwaukee, Dead Are Alive, and more. It was recorded live from Saz's on a Friday afternoon. I walked in and Saz, who I think is 80 years old, was manning the bar, playing dice with some regulars. Apparently, he he's still doing that on Fridays. Um, what a great guy. So wanted to wanted to run this as a full episode. The audio is not in studio quality, but it's it's still good. It's still good. And I thought you would you would really enjoy this one. Before diving in, I want to thank our partners who make Milwaukee on Cup possible. We'll kick it off with Nicolay Law, the Midwest law firm injured. Get Nicolay and Russ, and the team will take great care of you over there. That is Nicolai Law. Next, we've got Drink Wisconsinably Beverage Company. Best vodka brandy and canned cocktails in the game. I absolutely love their canned old-fashioned, available at bars and liquor stores across the state and at the Drink Wisconsinably pub, right across from the Pfizer Forum. And last but not least, our friends over at Annex Wealth Management. If you're looking to get your finances together in 2026 and have a goal that deals with your money, your earnings, your investments, go talk to the experts at Annex. They have an amazing team ready to listen and help you with your personal goals. Annex Wealth Management, know the difference. All right, let's dive in with the legendary founder of Sazes, Steve Sazama. Thank you for having us down today. Well, thank you.

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2:21

It's uh a pleasure having you, and it's can't believe it's been 50 years. And you're still man in the bar. You you were right back there. Well, I've got a friend, a bunch of friends of mine that we shake bar dice for drinks on Fridays. So, and the bar chips, but a uh it's it's just a lot of fun. I mean, we walk away, we're not drinking, we end up with a big pile of chips. Yeah. But and bar dice is just uh a Milwaukee traditional game that you play at bars. I I agree. Yeah.

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2:52

Every Friday you're still down here rolling the dice? Yeah, but I'm in town, yep. Oh yeah. That's good to hear. That's good to hear. So '76, how did this place start?

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3:02

Well, a good friend of mine, Pep Palmer, had Pep's Place, and which is Colonel Hart's now. Uh great bar. All right, and I was working for Pep. And Jerry Cohn in 19, he opened in 73, and then Jerry Cohn asked me to go to open up Major Goolsby's. So I was the first general manager down at Major Gouldsby's. At Golesby's. Yeah. Right when it opened. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I opened it.

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3:25

You got your footprints on all the iconic places.

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3:27

Well, I didn't know it. And Jerry was just a great owner and a great guy, and we're best of friends today. And um, and and from there, uh Pep, after three years, Pep saw this place was for sale. They said, Saz, what you have to, this is a place you have to have it. I suppose he knew I didn't have two nickels and whatever. So he guaranteed the money, and uh, which was ten thousand dollars. Interest rate was four percent.

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3:54

You know, yeah, yeah. Not bad.

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3:56

And uh we we took it over and uh we were very successful from day one. We knew so many people from major rules which came up and we ran shuttles to the brewer games and just it just great.

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4:10

Well what was uh was this a bar or restaurant when it opens or a building or bar and restaurants or oh since uh 1915. So this building's this 110 years old.

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4:22

Yeah, and uh there used to be a boarding house years ago. In fact, um again, now you're going back in the 30s, 20s, and 30s, when people used to go like from South Milwaukee to Pewaukee, they would bed their horse down here and they would sleep upstairs.

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4:43

And then you turned it into a bar and slept upstairs.

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4:46

I did. Unfortunately, how was that?

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4:50

So, how old were you when you started this place?

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4:52

Well, I was well, this is why it's such a big deal.

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4:55

I was uh 30 years old, so it's the 30 years old, having your own bar, living upstairs in the 70s. What was that like? Sounds like a great time to be alive.

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5:05

It was very fortunate, and we knew so many people, and it just it was a a story that I I know could be duplicated nowadays because of uh such good, you know, you had 400 people working at the brewery. They were in all the upper upper guys or the uh the factory guys were in. Um people went out for lunch. You know, this is before all your your sandwich shops and and uh you know, it just it just was was a great time. And we were very fortunate. We always had a big party opening day and uh put a tent down. From 76, you you well that was two years later because we started having so many people come here opening day that we finally put up a tent. And our record was I think it was 82 or 83. Uh then the old stadium held 56,000 people. So the brewers had plenty of tickets to sell. I mean, they wanted to sell the taverns, but they had plenty. So one year we had a thousand tickets and we had twenty-six school buses. As far as you could see down State Street, we had school buses. Nowadays you you can't get three school buses.

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6:14

No, twenty-six is quite a bit. Yeah. Do you have any great memories from the was it the 82 run that they went on?

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6:20

Oh, yeah. They had the tent was up the whole time, and uh it was just just just a great time, and the players were here, and I mean it's just we were the players dropped in here. Yeah.

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6:32

Any good any good stories about any of them?

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6:36

Uh not during the World Series so much.

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6:38

You know, not the outside of the World Series.

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6:41

Yeah, well, some I don't know if he would like Paul Moller's rookie year. He was playing third base.

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6:47

Yeah.

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6:48

And uh he had one hell of a game, one hell of a series, and it was a Sunday night, and he came in here, and uh he said I said, What are you hungry for, Paul? He says, I need some good meatballs. So uh took him down to the town room on Thurnd, Wisconsin, where you wouldn't eat Thurnd, Wisconsin is is nothing now. Right. But there used to be a town theater, which is the movie theater. Yeah, and then below it was the Maniachi Sicily Cafe. Uh-huh. So we went down there and uh it was just he ordered spaghetti and meatballs. They didn't order a big steak, he didn't want veal. Yeah, he just wanted spaghetti and meatballs, you know. Um but no, a lot of good people today. In fact, you know, Robin Yountwin's in town. He's he's probably the greatest, he's the nicest, the greatest person you'd ever want to meet. And forget about that, he's in the hall of pain. Yeah. But he's that's good. He's a hall of fame guy. You have any good memories with him here over the years? Oh, one time he was meeting Bob Euchre here, and um, and another big week at Miller Brewing Company, and my dishwasher, John Leonard, he was my dishwasher for like 30 years, and he drank Miller Light as Robin did. So he says, Robin came in and he says, Robin, I want to buy you a drink. And of course, Robin's so cool, he said, sure, I'll buy one. Yeah, and I'll I'll take it. And he congratulated on and he said, Robin, just so you know, we're both in the hall of fame. And and Robin says, Hall of Fame? He says, Yeah, I'm in a dishwasher's hall of fame. And congratulations. So about three weeks later, it was uh John's birthday, yeah, and he sent him an honograph ball. And this is right after we got into the Hall of Fame. And it is so it was Robin Young, H O H O E on the baseball.

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8:42

Yeah.

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8:42

And whenever he was here, he was coaching for a while. Yeah, you know, and little John would go to the table and talk to him, and just just the nicest, nicest man in the world. Still is. Did you did you come in here much? No, he did not. Okay. Yeah. And actually, he was getting a little later then. You know, he really didn't go to many places. Uh but uh we used Of course, Pete Bukovich, of course, what bar didn't he go into? I mean, Vukwood was credit character and um it it was just a lot of them had gift certificates, so they'd come in. We used to we used the sponsor the the pregame interview. So but very nice. And of course, then we had a lot of good friends with the Milwaukee Bucks being at Major Goolsby's. So like Wayne Emory and uh and Don Nelson that would come out, you know. And uh in fact, Nelly, if uh uh don't remember when Don Nelson used to have a a tie out, a fish tie. Yeah, I don't know if you ever saw one, but i it was contrived in a booth by the men's room back there. Really? That's where he sighed uh came up with the his his fish tie.

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9:53

At the same size as men's room, basically. Yeah, well, yes. Right outside right outside of here. How was Nelly a good guy to have a beer with?

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10:01

Oh yeah, oh yeah, he was great. And in fact, when Nelly got fired, um we both living in the Hermitage downtown. And of course, yeah, that it was not high raise, it was only three floors, right? I was on the second floor, but he was on the third floor, and it was a lot nicer than mine. So he calls me up. He says, Sassy, Sassie, do you want it? And I said, Do I want what? My place. And I said, sure. He said, You got it. And I said, Well, thank you. And then he hangs up. Well, I'm waiting a couple of weeks. I don't hear from him, wondering what the hell is this all about. So he calls me back up and gives me a price. And of course, I I can't say it because the words I used to, but are you effing nuts? You know, I said, here's what I'll pay you. He said, Okay, you know. So I bought his place. Yeah.

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10:51

Who who would you say um the best guy to have a beer with was over the years? Bunts of brewers who came who'd come in.

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11:00

Well, well, Robin and Nelly were right up there. And another good guy was um who just passed away. I get a little emotional now, it's uh Bruce Freddy. Okay. He passed away two days ago. And Bruce was a good guy to have a beer with, be it here or in the uh Umpire's locker room after the game. So it was just a good guy, you know.

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11:23

Uh yeah, I'm sorry, I got a little bit of a good. You're good. Um I mean you you have you've grown this so big, you have so many divisions now, you have festivals, catering, this place, retail. Um when you got started, was it was there moments where were there some difficult obstacles you had had to overcome or any time where you were like, wow, I'm I'm in over my head.

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11:51

Well, I was very lucky because Pep Hammer was also not only on the bar, but he was an accountant. So he took took care of the bookwork of that. And and Pep is a best friend of mine, but he never had any for surgery of the place. Just helped out. And that was an old story because Morrie's on Prospect, which was a famous East Side Bar, loaned Pep money to go in the business. And part of the part of the deal was in Pep had to loan money to somebody to go in the business. So I was the lucky guy. And uh, no, we just grew so fast, it was and the place was so small. Yeah. The biggest problem we had would be uh we had the fire department, the you know the occupants too many people in here, you know. So I mean we had lines all the ways to the to almost where the where the meat store is, but and then uh built that and built the room and that was in 1980. And that almost bankrupt me because interest rates were 18 and a half percent. It was like a credit card.

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12:54

In 1980. Yeah. So you're four years in and you almost go broke? Yeah. What was that like?

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13:02

Uh hard to believe, you know. And uh there were a couple other facts because I expanded so much that um I almost went broke. But you know, I I I I had a firm belief that it, you know, you gotta expand. And and a lot of it was forced expansion. When uh people started eating my barbecue pork or the ribs. Well, first of all, they'd wanted the sauce for their Kelgate parties. Well then then they used to pick up their pork here and take it to the ballpark. Well then they didn't want to pick it up. They wanted us to serve them. Yeah.

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13:38

So that's how the catering thing grew, and it grew and it grew and and uh uh So you so you you essentially over the years saw opportunities that I don't want to say they were safe, but you had had clear signals that you should go after them and then you just took them.

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13:56

Yep. I mean, I would say but I mean not Kenya, we're just fortunate as as heck, but and I just and I owe it all to my employees too, because I've had I've got so many people that owned me 25, 30 years, and and uh they're just wonderful, and now four of them are are my partners, and it's really kind of neat because so is Kurt one of them? Oh yeah, who's running the show?

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14:19

Well, how's he how he started here all a long time ago, right?

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14:22

He was like 14 years old. No shit. My my cousin was a Jesuit at Market High, yeah. And he calls me up and says says, You gotta hire this kid. He kind of looked kind of geeky looking, but you gotta hire him. So and and those are the words, I mean, I'm not making them up, and hired him. And now he's what, 45 years old? Run running the show now and so everything. I mean, does the books for everything, and he just he's probably one of the most amazing first he's they'd ever want to be. And I have Joe Bruegerman who's and and Nat Hawkins, and they run the catering end of it, and they've grown the catering so much, and um uh it's just just been a weird.

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15:07

What do you think your key to to growing and retaining people has been in this business?

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15:12

Well, as you walk in, if you see we won the outstanding employer ward every year, we and that's a Milwaukee Journal base, and that's not one where you give them ten thousand dollars and they give you the plaque to put on the wall.

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15:25

Yeah.

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15:25

I mean your employees have to have to answer the questions and process. Yeah, yeah. Right. So and you know, you if you don't treat people right, they're gonna leave, you know, and and and also I have a thing where if I I I don't know if much uh when I went to market high school, they had seven classes. The every like 25 kids were in a class, so there's one class, two, three, four, five. Well anyway, I was in seven, the dumps at market high. Yeah. But the sevens where were attorneys, business owners, and and and the ones and twos of the doctors and the physics, and the attorneys also were I say we're in the sevens. And the three, fours, and fives worked for the ones and twos of the six and sevens. They were they just they just had to be comfortable.

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16:16

The sevens are probably very entrepreneurial. I would I would think I couldn't I couldn't do well in school either. I I was not. Um let's talk about this. We have some iconic items on here. We've got the the combo platter all over Stay Fair, Summerfest. How how did this all come out in this this mozzarella marinara is yeah?

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16:38

You know, it's funny when um Tracy Sprohl was the food and beverage coordinator at Summerfest, and her uncle was one of my original customers, and a very good customer. Well, then there were two gentlemen from Miller Brewing Company, Sigway Saki and Dennis Basie, and they were at fairs and festivals. And Miller used to sponsor fairs, maybe a Jazz Festival in New York or whatever, out easter. And uh they're the only company that did it. So uh Tracy contacted them and said, you know, would you know we need to find somebody in the Miller area because there was an Arthur Treacher's fish and shits. I can't figure out mission chips, I'm sorry, uh there. And uh so they wanted us to um to go in there, and of course, obviously we're thrilled, but not the what the heck we're gonna serve. Yeah, and uh my uh mozzarella marinera in an Italian restaurant is the pan-fried mozzarella cheese. But I thought, boy, if we could eat it with our fingers, we'd have a winner. So my chef, Dick Nash, uh went out with a Chinese chef, and of course, cheese egg roll. So these are all hand rolled in True River Fish. What year what year was that around? Well, we went in the Summerfest in 82, so um not not much before that.

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18:07

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18:51

This this story is really one of the most amazing stories. I mean, I laugh about it every time I tell us. We used to use a um, you know, you go to a place, you got a cottage fly, the the fresh potato they slice, like potato chips. Well, we used to put all the potatoes in a 55-gallon uh barrel, yeah, and then put water and and uh an antioxidant in there. And then we would open up the drain and drain the water up, and of course, then we use that for the potatoes. Uh well, one day, right before the health inspector came, Bruce Kress, who was a great guy and still alive, the kid missed the drain, so he's like standing over there and opens it up. Snag got water all over the floor, and then comes the health department.

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19:42

He misses the drain.

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19:43

Yeah. So Bruce says, Well, you know, that's kind of a mess. He says, But I think on a product you may want to try. And he told me about the sour cream and chai French. But had that kid not missed that drain like that, these would not have been a thing.

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19:59

And that would have been never would have happened. And I I heard uh after these came out, what year did these come out?

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20:04

That came out about 84.

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20:06

So in 84, you went to Summerfest with both regular fries and these, right? And these outsold those.

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20:14

Yeah. So then we got rid of the other fries. But the original stand, if you ever saw a picture of it, it was so small. Yeah. I mean, we were rolling mozzarella sticks right in the stand to order, you know. It was it was amazing. And with the Miller Brewerin coming, they've been so helpful. We'd had such a good relationship. And of course, at State Fair. Um like Summerfest, when Summerfest they wanted to bring in local vendors, so like Jerry Cohen from Major Goolsby's is someplace else. Uh-huh. They want to bring some legitimacy. Yeah. And the Venice Club went in, and that was the maybe the third or fourth vendor to go in there, local vendor.

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20:56

Do you have a I'm gonna give one of these a try, but um, not that I haven't tried them before quite a few times. I'm a fan of them, but do you have a favorite Summerfest or State Fair story that stands out?

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21:09

Um well, uh I can do a state fair story. I mean maybe in the future. Miller Highlight used to have the Miller Light All-Stars commercials where they had uh uh Euchar was the main guy, but they had Ronnie D'Ajaville, Mickey Spillane, they had um everybody, everybody. Well, they had a guy named Jimmy Schroeder, and Jimmy was like the babe roof of Bronco Riders. Right. And he was about maybe five, nine. Well, she's obviously shake your hand, you know what I mean. Your your hand would fall off. Well, his bull was Buford T Light, and they betted Beauford T Light right up where the Miller stand is. uh the the miller light yeah yeah they had them bedded outside during the day well the fair ended up making them change it but beautiful tea light they used to take him in the bars at night he went to Billy's old mill and he'd have well the last Sunday of the fair all of a sudden it's getting late and everybody's had a few beers and a couple of guys the Miller and of course Jimmy I'm saying up the road with Buford T Light so Buford comes into the tent and then we had a tent then and we had there was a person in a wheelchair right about this far away maybe three feet away from the tent pole and of course Pam DeRonio at the time was there she had a great band great jazz singer so she's on Buford T Light singing and Beauford T lights making his way in the bull yeah she's on she's singing on the bull in a tent she was just riding she was riding the bull in the tent and and puzzle waitress who we had two people on Buford Buford could take two people. Okay but how he could slink through this little opening without hitting this crystal in the wheelchair was like I still don't know how the heck you guys would just bring the bull into the bars that night? They did he would tour the country you remember there's a famous it was a famous bar called Billy's Old Mill in Milwaukee?

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23:28

Yeah was on 76th and uh Forrest home I I I I don't I've been here since 2008 ish. Okay yeah so I that leads to my next question though which I wanted to ask you what do you think the best bars in Milwaukee are dead or alive?

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23:45

So best bars of all time they own well you know my I got married in 1991 so my by going out of bar into Mars is okay I would have to say uh restaurants we could put those in there as well the restaurants easy uh but bars uh well it was more's on prospect for years and that was on prospect and Brady okay not I mean sorry prospect and uh no silver on prospect yeah right there yeah yeah yep uh that was a great thing um Gary's at the time and then it's O'Donoghue's and of course now on Donahue's is is in in in Elm Grove uh Bob Cross Carlos's off the clock and that's on South Hull um you know and my light changed as far as going to bars but what what about restaurants that do or don't exist anymore that you you really enjoyed going to well I'll tell you what there's a book upstairs that at all Milwaukee restaurants from XW and I think there's only like two of us left you know yeah um I mean right now I mean I love Katarinas I love pastiche I love BB's pizza on North Avenue any from the 70s or 80s that that stood out well they're not around uh that aren't around they're not around uh you know I I used to love salines for the prime rib okay yeah now I gotta go down I go down and see Brian wore to his prime rib but he was at Brian was at the open hearth and he was a dishwasher there really so he learned uh he learned the recipe so so Brian's been very successful with that uh pizza I love I enjoy Balastraries on uh on Blue Mound yeah and it's a also good vibe for me now uh um yeah things have any other throwback restaurants from the 70s eighties or nineties well with the old ownership Curpris Five o'clock club yeah when they when the original guys owned it and and nothing against the new guys but I mean um but we used to go there quite a bit and it was it was wonderful um oh well of course once in a while you'd have to go down to uh Sally's and that was in the Knickerbocker Hotel. Oh interesting okay and Sally Papia so she very interesting character and and it had great stakes but it was the only place in town where you could get an eight o'clock Saturday night dinner reservation.

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26:50

Really so you had the reservation yeah yeah you had the reservation yeah that didn't mean you got your table she's passed away yeah and her daughter's passed away but yeah well the only way you could get in sooner if you used uh a doctor in front of your name if you get in okay and one of the best ones that I'm sorry I didn't bring it up in Mannias Susan Cafe when they moved over to uh uh Whitefish Bay yeah Fox Point and Arnie and Rosie they were just fantastic very cool in fact they had a they they they had a a very clicky clientele and they couldn't seat certain people next to each other so when they got a reservation they had to figure out where are we gonna sit 'em I wasn't one I would have you don't strike me as that kind of guy um coming up on fifty what what are you most proud of?

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27:57

Well I guess I'm most proud of that um now you're getting the goosebumps there uh you know the good people that I know and the good relationships and it's something I stress to the all all my employees but basically to the owners and is that you have to have relationships. Now you look at the relationship you have with Kirk he's amazing and and with our vendors and that and it's all about relationships you know and you don't worry about this is ten cents a pound or this and you know yeah you know you don't have to say I I know some guys I won't use their name but you know sales are waiting in line and they're you're you know they're 75 cents high in a case of toilet paper you know you know and uh but it's all about relationships and the other part about is we're very active in the community as far as giving back and I'll tell you I myself been on quite a few boards very very proud of it and and we've got uh uh Hannah Kitzrow Hannah's on the Sharp Literacy Board uh Kurt's on the the State Restaurant Association board he's on the Visit Milwaukee board and he's on the Wisconsin State Bear Foundation board which he he replaced me and uh so we're very very active in why why why is giving back important to you well I paid my own way to market high so I I I had nothing and you know you paid your own way through market high at 14 to 18 yeah what what jobs it was a hundred dollars done how much was tuition back then well the first year it was a hundred because I had a brother there so it would have been it would have been a year high little different yeah well then because I had to pay my way own way through school but at at one time and I'm not making this up and it may take minutes but I had I believe six jobs and eighteen credits at Marquette. High school no college college college I drove truck for Boltman trucking for like three to eight and then uh I had referee basketball uh on some days I didn't drive truck I I I had referee basketball or or touch football that's job number two job number three at one o'clock in the morning one a Saturday morning or Friday night I'd go to Bolton trucking and we used to wash 20 trucks and half of them were outside you had to bring them in yeah so that lasted till about eight in the morning at nine in the morning ten nine three in the morning then I'd referee youth basketball at uh sixth and walnut I don't know what the name of the school is now so that's the fifth job or sixth job and Saturday night about one in the morning I used to take a bakery truck you know those bakery they're not very big and I used to drive it down to Bernie Brothers in Chicago and pick up bakery and I'd have about eight stops somewhere in Illinois and some were the parties west I went to was Brookville Square which was there was a Woolworth there and I went as far north as uh well forget the name of the wrestle but the Sibrus is right next to it. Mekwan Mekwan yeah so I went that far and then um just a couple here yeah well there were like six eight stops and then Sunday afternoon I ran the Division IV CYO which was St. St. Bernard's St. Thomas Mother Good Counselor and um St. Sebastian's so I used to hire the officials and they went to school when when did you sleep I don't know you just got it done um I love it any uh what but one thing it did cause though is that I couldn't make it to a class I needed to graduate from you needed Father Pierre wrote said Marquette had the theory of business ethics so it was eight o'clock on Monday morning well by then I was a noodle there's no way am I going to make did they let you graduate no they wouldn't let me graduate if they didn't think of did you ever graduate no you did all right you did all right I didn't have the theory of business ethics no that's amazing you you've done you've done just fine um do we want to end it what's your favorite piece of life advice would you say to give to give to someone well it just seems like the harder you work the luckier you get you know and and even as I tell my wait staff here the bartenders you know I know this up it's a part-time job for you but when you're here you've got to look at this as it's a profession and and that it our guests demand nothing but the best service yeah and that's where we come up with the finest.

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33:19

Well then thank you so it was an honor spending some time with you today and um congrats on everything you've done and thank you for everything you've done as well. All right before signing off want to give a huge thank you to Saz what a what a great guy an amazing Milwaukee story and an amazing company that does so much for the community so it was it was great getting to know Saz and before signing off just want to thank our partners who make Milwaukee Uncut Possible annex wealth management Nicola and drink Wisconsinably beverage company